Ezra Levant: I was looking at your article in the Washington Times. You say that it works out to about $4,800 per person to send them back. And that sounds like such an enormous amount. And you say 2,200 are being sent back, so I'm just doing the math in my head. That's what, about $10 million. But that's what they spend in like a few days if they're kept [in Greece], in housing, in healthcare, in education. So, to spent $4,800 to send someone back with some dignity – that's the biggest bargain Greek taxpayers will ever have.

Daniel Pipes: Right. I estimate it's about one percent of the cost of paying for migrants over the years. Yes, it's a very small amount.

Levant: ... Treating people with respect, spending some money, scratching your charitable itch, but not being treated like a sucker. I like it. Do you think it might catch on anywhere else?

Pipes: I hope so, that's why I wrote the article – the expectation that people might learn from the Greek experience. ...

Levant: ... Well, it's very interesting and it was a pleasure to read about it. I was startled at first, I objected at first – the idea of giving so much free stuff to interlopers is one of the reasons I object to this open borders migration, but if actually works you can't knock it until you try it. Thanks for sharing this idea with us.